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arkessian checked the 1901 census, and found a Henry E Hoad born in Westgate in 1897: exactly the right age, exactly the right location. Hurrah!Prompted by
papersky, I checked records of soldiers killed in the First World War.And found a record of one Henry Ellis Hoad, of Newcastle on Tyne. The site wouldn't tell me anything more without I paid up money, which I am reluctant to do; but even so...
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December 15 2007, 13:23:08 UTC 4 years ago
I'm glad that you found it, though. It's touching, to know that people's thoughts are with him again, after all this time.
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Name: HOAD, Henry Ellis
Regiment, Corps etc.: York and Lancaster Regiment
Battalion etc.: 8th (Service) Battalion.
Last name: Hoad
First name(s): Henry Ellis
Initials: H E
Birthplace: St. Philip, Newcastle-On-Tyne
Enlisted: Newcastle-On-Tyne
Residence:
Rank: A/L/CPL.
Number: 34262
Date died: 07 June 1917
How died: Killed in action
Theatre of war: France & Flanders
Supplementary Notes: FORMERLY 24257, NORTHUMBERLAND FUSILIERS., M.M
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December 15 2007, 13:49:28 UTC 4 years ago
He would be dead now anyway. Born in 1897... And yet, he had such expectations. He could draw. They must have been so proud of him. They must have put his reference up in that family bible. Perhaps they put it there when they found he wasn't coming back? Perhaps more carefully because they had no grave to tend? So many lives, so many people just as real as us, so many threads of life, that do not touch.
December 15 2007, 23:45:08 UTC 4 years ago
Dead or somewhat famous. There are a few people born in 1897 or thereabouts who are still around.
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His conduct was good and his schoolwork not bad,
He was good with his drawing since he was just small
But he's nobody's grand-dad at all.
He was somebody's pupil and somebody's son
He was well recommended, he worked and he won
They must have been proud, he was grown up and tall,
But he's nobody's grand-dad at all.
He was Corporal Hoad, he went over the top
In the war in the trenches that no-one could stop
He was brave and determined, he answered the call
Now he's nobody's grand-dad at all.
Now all that remains is his headmaster's word
And a cross in a field, and the fact that we heard
What we're learning today of his life and his fall,
For he's nobody's grand-dad at all.
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December 15 2007, 14:51:15 UTC 4 years ago Edited: December 15 2007, 14:52:20 UTC
As others pointed out, multiply this story by how many millions?
Well .... as an alternative .... you could give him a different life ending entirely through fiction?
I wonder if any other family members are left in your area who might be interested in this discovery. Can they be contacted through the military?
I lost an older cousin in Vietnam way back when (helicopter pilot) -- we still act as if he is present with us at large family gatherings. He probably is. :) Many of us have had indications of his continuing involvement in our lives, if you can accept that sort of thing. Almost all my uncles were WWII and Korean war vets... so yeah, this hits home pretty hard. I'll never forget the face of my uncle, sobbing like a child, at his son's funeral. I was twelve years old.
-Alyson-
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Maybe he left family. I'd like to think so. I think I'd like to think so: some part of him surviving.
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I hope it's okay with you if I add you to my f-list? Thanks! :)
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December 17 2007, 06:27:28 UTC 4 years ago
Henry E. Hoad was born in Dec. 1896, son of Henry A.R.F. Hoad and Sylvene. In 1901, he lived with his parents and his 2-YO brother Walter at 75 Campbell St. in Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland. His father was a tailor.
Henry A.R.F. Hoad was born abt. 1870, son of Henry Hoad and Mary Jane.
Our Harry married Margaret A. Brook in Q1 1916 in Brentford, Middlesex. In Q1 1917, Dulcie E.B. Hoad (mother's name Todd) was born and died in Brentford, "age 0".
Walter G. Hoad married Marion Todd in Q1 1920 in Luton, Northumberland. Walter J. Hoad (mother's name Todd) was born in Luton in Q2 1921. I couldn't find any records for him after his birth.
Henry A.R.F. Hoad appears in a private family tree tagged "Anthony Tench" on the site. I sent a message to the tree-holder asking if our Harry or his brother has any modern descendants in England. Meanwhile, I googled Anthony Tench and found a Fiat owner in Washington, "near Sunderland and Newcastle upon Tyne". (I have the email address he put in that directory listing.)
I also found a memorial page and some news articles about Pvt. Michael Anthony Tench of the Light Infantry, born in 1988 and killed 21 Jan 2007 by an IED near Basra, Iraq.
MAO
December 17 2007, 07:43:29 UTC 4 years ago Edited: December 17 2007, 07:44:22 UTC
I think I found Harry's sister. Sylvene Hoad was born in 1902 in Newcastle Tyne. That's all I know about her so far.
Harry's grandfather Henry died in 1916 at age 83. (This is a "seems likely", since this Henry Hoad would have been born in 1833 and would have been 36 when Harry's father was born.)
I should be sleeping.
MAO
December 17 2007, 08:50:16 UTC 4 years ago
Thank you for all this. I need to do a collation post, I think, pulling everything together from various comment-threads...
December 17 2007, 13:35:26 UTC 4 years ago
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